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Paco numero 2
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</embed></object></div><div class="post-footer"></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">Invité</span><span class="post-author-title">Invité<br /></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/gallery/flamen12.jpg" alt="Anonymous" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129792" class="post-wrap row1 post--129792"><div id="129792" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129792">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Lun 29 Nov 2010 - 18:50</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content"><font face="Comic Sans Ms"><img src="/users/3112/75/10/01/smiles/2152601298.png" alt="slt" longdesc="25" /> totoskaya <img src="/users/3112/75/10/01/smiles/2152601298.png" alt="slt" longdesc="25" /><br /><br /> <img src="/users/3112/75/10/01/smiles/274712.gif" alt="glub" longdesc="38" /> Wouah, impressionnant, quelle rapidité, quelle aisance...c'est magique, c'est sublime </font> :-coeur-: <div class="post-signature" id="sig129792"><br /><br /><strong>Pykatchoo <img src="/users/3112/75/10/01/smiles/1485951531.png" alt="Guitariste" longdesc="8" /> </strong></div></div><div class="post-footer likes-active"><div class="fa_like_div"><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><span class="rep-cat"><i class="material-icons">thumb_up</i><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></span><span>J'aime</span></button></div></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">pykatchoo</span><span class="post-author-title"></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/3492-0.jpg" alt="pykatchoo" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"></span></span></dt><dd><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/responsive/icons/mini/female.png" alt="Féminin" title="Féminin" /></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#141414;">Je suis</span> : </span></dt><dd><ul class="profile_field_list"><li>Guitariste</li><li>Chanteuse</li></ul></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f47/11/47/41/95/39369110.gif" alt="Nombre de messages" /></span></span></dt><dd>5198</dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#CF7A13;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f77/11/47/41/95/539a1310.png" alt="Guitares" /></span></span></dt><dd>Classique 2ème prix ... Depuis la rencontre 09/10 une petite flamenca Juan Lopez </dd></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129801" class="post-wrap row2 post--129801"><div id="129801" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129801">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Lun 29 Nov 2010 - 19:26</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">tres bon guitariste j avai deja vu des video de lui sur youtube la guitare est magnifique merci toto</div><div class="post-footer likes-active"><div class="fa_like_div"><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><span class="rep-cat"><i class="material-icons">thumb_up</i><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></span><span>J'aime</span></button></div></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">cristobal</span><span class="post-author-title"></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/8228-87.jpg" alt="cristobal" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"></span></span></dt><dd><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/responsive/icons/mini/male.png" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#141414;">Je suis</span> : </span></dt><dd><ul class="profile_field_list"><li>Guitariste</li></ul></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f47/11/47/41/95/39369110.gif" alt="Nombre de messages" /></span></span></dt><dd>384</dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#CF7A13;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f77/11/47/41/95/539a1310.png" alt="Guitares" /></span></span></dt><dd>antonio bernal</dd></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129808" class="post-wrap row1 post--129808"><div id="129808" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129808">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Lun 29 Nov 2010 - 19:43</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content"><strong>Viva le Flamenco Russe !</strong><br /><br /><strong>Son site Web:</strong><br /><a href="http://www.grishaguitar.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.grishaguitar.com/</a><br /><br /><strong>Autre sujet:</strong><br /><a href="/autour-de-la-guitare-f1/a-lui-c-est-du-grand-flamenco-puro-bulerias-de-grisha-goryachev-t5180.htm?highlight=grisha+goryachev">https://www.flamenco-rumba.com/autour-de-la-guitare-f1/a-lui-c-est-du-grand-flamenco-puro-bulerias-de-grisha-goryachev-t5180.htm?highlight=grisha+goryachev</a><br /><br /><a href="/la-bodega-f2/ecoutez-ca-grigory-grisha-goryachev-t1467.htm?highlight=grisha+goryachev">https://www.flamenco-rumba.com/la-bodega-f2/ecoutez-ca-grigory-grisha-goryachev-t1467.htm?highlight=grisha+goryachev</a></div><div class="post-footer likes-active"><div class="fa_like_div"><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><span class="rep-cat"><i class="material-icons">thumb_up</i><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></span><span>J'aime</span></button></div></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name"><span style="color:#FF5B0F"><strong>Franky</strong></span></span><span class="post-author-title"><font color="#e30000">Administrateur</font><br /></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/1-72.jpg" alt="Franky" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"></span></span></dt><dd><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/responsive/icons/mini/male.png" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#141414;">Je suis</span> : </span></dt><dd><ul class="profile_field_list"><li>Guitariste</li></ul></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f47/11/47/41/95/39369110.gif" alt="Nombre de messages" /></span></span></dt><dd>5856</dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#CF7A13;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f77/11/47/41/95/539a1310.png" alt="Guitares" /></span></span></dt><dd>Conde Hermanos 1998 Felipe V N°2 | Ortega électroacoustique | Esteve électro </dd></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129809" class="post-wrap row2 post--129809"><div id="129809" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129809">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Lun 29 Nov 2010 - 19:53</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">oui c'est un super guitariste déjà enfant il épatait! une vidéo ou il joue la zarda de monty est dispo sur youtube</div><div class="post-footer likes-active"><div class="fa_like_div"><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><span class="rep-cat"><i class="material-icons">thumb_up</i><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></span><span>J'aime</span></button></div></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">aflamenco</span><span class="post-author-title"></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/6735-76.jpg" alt="aflamenco" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"></span></span></dt><dd><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/responsive/icons/mini/male.png" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f47/11/47/41/95/39369110.gif" alt="Nombre de messages" /></span></span></dt><dd>802</dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#CF7A13;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f77/11/47/41/95/539a1310.png" alt="Guitares" /></span></span></dt><dd>artisane aparicio AA 90F</dd></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129810" class="post-wrap row1 post--129810"><div id="129810" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129810">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Lun 29 Nov 2010 - 19:54</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content"><object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="https://www.youtube.com/v/GkDF4Vf1dxM?fs=1&hl=fr_FR"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/GkDF4Vf1dxM?fs=1&hl=fr_FR" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object><br /><br /> <img src="/users/3112/75/10/01/smiles/315201.gif" alt=":b:" longdesc="65" /> <img src="/users/3112/75/10/01/smiles/1191405891.png" alt="£Guitarist" longdesc="42" /> </div><div class="post-footer"></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">Invité</span><span class="post-author-title">Invité<br /></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/gallery/flamen12.jpg" alt="Anonymous" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129813" class="post-wrap row2 post--129813"><div id="129813" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129813">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Lun 29 Nov 2010 - 20:09</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">waou la guitr sur la premiere video brave bete oui</div><div class="post-footer likes-active"><div class="fa_like_div"><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><span class="rep-cat"><i class="material-icons">thumb_up</i><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></span><span>J'aime</span></button></div></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">sanson</span><span class="post-author-title"></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/5287-10.jpg" alt="sanson" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"></span></span></dt><dd><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/responsive/icons/mini/male.png" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f47/11/47/41/95/39369110.gif" alt="Nombre de messages" /></span></span></dt><dd>4129</dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#CF7A13;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f77/11/47/41/95/539a1310.png" alt="Guitares" /></span></span></dt><dd>gerundino</dd></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129823" class="post-wrap row1 post--129823"><div id="129823" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129823">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Lun 29 Nov 2010 - 20:49</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">je pense que grisha on le présente plus c un monstre <br />paco de lucia et allée voir un de c concert et la fait venir a seville pour des festival<br />maintenant il lui fo sont jeux a lui et sa technique parsk des paco sa existe pas <br />y a que paco <br />et quand grisha aura c compos la oui parsk tous c album sont jouez a partir de (SABICAS,VICENTE AMIGO,MANOLO SANLUCAR,PACO bien sur ) <br />alors moi je pense que d'ici allée 2 a 3 ans sa va faire boom <br />et il est très jeune </div><div class="post-footer likes-active"><div class="fa_like_div"><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><span class="rep-cat"><i class="material-icons">thumb_up</i><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></span><span>J'aime</span></button></div></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">sansdelucia</span><span class="post-author-title"></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/4832-27.jpg" alt="sansdelucia" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"></span></span></dt><dd><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/responsive/icons/mini/male.png" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#141414;">Je suis</span> : </span></dt><dd><ul class="profile_field_list"><li>Guitariste</li></ul></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f47/11/47/41/95/39369110.gif" alt="Nombre de messages" /></span></span></dt><dd>1051</dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#CF7A13;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f77/11/47/41/95/539a1310.png" alt="Guitares" /></span></span></dt><dd>CONDE HERMANOS media luna. VALERIANO BERNAL dunee clavija palo,CONDE HERMANOS MOD PACO DE LUCIA EN RIO 1989 FAUSTINO CONDE,PACO DE LUCIA 2003 RIO (VICENTE CARRILLO) CONDE HERMANOS RIO DE 1989 FELIPV</dd></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129851" class="post-wrap row2 post--129851"><div id="129851" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129851">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Lun 29 Nov 2010 - 22:44</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content"> son extraordinaire virtuosité , son sens du compas , sa grande sérénité , sa jeunesse , son talent a été universellement reconnu . c'est un grand <img src="/users/3112/75/10/01/smiles/1191405891.png" alt="£Guitarist" longdesc="42" /> </div><div class="post-footer"></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">Invité</span><span class="post-author-title">Invité<br /></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/gallery/flamen12.jpg" alt="Anonymous" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129852" class="post-wrap row1 post--129852"><div id="129852" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129852">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Lun 29 Nov 2010 - 22:48</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">Très bon guitariste mais "seulement " interprète...pour l'instant.</div><div class="post-footer"></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">Invité</span><span class="post-author-title">Invité<br /></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/gallery/flamen12.jpg" alt="Anonymous" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129866" class="post-wrap row2 post--129866"><div id="129866" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129866">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Lun 29 Nov 2010 - 23:54</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">Je suis un grand de grisha il a beaucoup de mérite déjà a la basse il sort du classique et conservatoire de plus s'attaqué a du Paco de Lucia c du lourd mais le faire bien a la Paco c grisha<br />Maintenant pour revenir a se k je disai il doit avoir sont style et la il sera encore plus grand <br />Moi je donnerai mes 2 bras pour jouez comme mais je serai obligé de siflé flamenco joué de la guitoune sans bras c dur LOL </div><div class="post-footer likes-active"><div class="fa_like_div"><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><span class="rep-cat"><i class="material-icons">thumb_up</i><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></span><span>J'aime</span></button></div></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">sansdelucia</span><span class="post-author-title"></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/4832-27.jpg" alt="sansdelucia" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"></span></span></dt><dd><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/responsive/icons/mini/male.png" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#141414;">Je suis</span> : </span></dt><dd><ul class="profile_field_list"><li>Guitariste</li></ul></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f47/11/47/41/95/39369110.gif" alt="Nombre de messages" /></span></span></dt><dd>1051</dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#CF7A13;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f77/11/47/41/95/539a1310.png" alt="Guitares" /></span></span></dt><dd>CONDE HERMANOS media luna. VALERIANO BERNAL dunee clavija palo,CONDE HERMANOS MOD PACO DE LUCIA EN RIO 1989 FAUSTINO CONDE,PACO DE LUCIA 2003 RIO (VICENTE CARRILLO) CONDE HERMANOS RIO DE 1989 FELIPV</dd></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129873" class="post-wrap row1 post--129873"><div id="129873" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129873">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Mar 30 Nov 2010 - 7:09</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">ouintres bon on a déjà des vidéos de lui.<br />merci</div><div class="post-footer"></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">Invité</span><span class="post-author-title">Invité<br /></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/gallery/flamen12.jpg" alt="Anonymous" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129884" class="post-wrap row2 post--129884"><div id="129884" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129884">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Mar 30 Nov 2010 - 9:38</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">pour rajouter a ce que dit sansdelucia griska joue à la manière de.Comme un excellent imitateur lorsqu'il joue du paco on croit que c'est paco quand il joue sabicas idem</div><div class="post-footer likes-active"><div class="fa_like_div"><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><span class="rep-cat"><i class="material-icons">thumb_up</i><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></span><span>J'aime</span></button></div></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">aflamenco</span><span class="post-author-title"></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/6735-76.jpg" alt="aflamenco" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"></span></span></dt><dd><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/responsive/icons/mini/male.png" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f47/11/47/41/95/39369110.gif" alt="Nombre de messages" /></span></span></dt><dd>802</dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#CF7A13;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f77/11/47/41/95/539a1310.png" alt="Guitares" /></span></span></dt><dd>artisane aparicio AA 90F</dd></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129900" class="post-wrap row1 post--129900"><div id="129900" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129900">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Mar 30 Nov 2010 - 12:49</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">moi je dirais qu'il maitrise sont instrument comme les grands actuel de se monde, une note reste la même joué par paco ou vicente ou n importe qui d'autre du moment que l'on maitrise,un style de jeu reste un style de jeu c est propre a la personne ...comme le dis sandelucia qd il enchaineras ses compos a lui et le pense qu'il doit en avoir pa mal vu l énormité du jeu qu'il propose, il feras partie des musicien qui marquerons le XXI siècle . <img src="/users/3112/75/10/01/smiles/1160336568.png" alt="sunny" longdesc="34" /> </div><div class="post-footer likes-active"><div class="fa_like_div"><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><span class="rep-cat"><i class="material-icons">thumb_up</i><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></span><span>J'aime</span></button></div></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">carlo de clementina</span><span class="post-author-title"></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/4675-74.jpg" alt="carlo de clementina" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"></span></span></dt><dd><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/responsive/icons/mini/male.png" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#141414;">Je suis</span> : </span></dt><dd><ul class="profile_field_list"><li>Guitariste</li></ul></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f47/11/47/41/95/39369110.gif" alt="Nombre de messages" /></span></span></dt><dd>323</dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#CF7A13;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f77/11/47/41/95/539a1310.png" alt="Guitares" /></span></span></dt><dd>camps primera</dd></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129902" class="post-wrap row2 post--129902"><div id="129902" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129902">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Mar 30 Nov 2010 - 13:01</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">pas de tout à fait de cet avis! s'approprié du duende est ce de la maitrise?<br /><br /></div><div class="post-footer likes-active"><div class="fa_like_div"><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><span class="rep-cat"><i class="material-icons">thumb_up</i><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></span><span>J'aime</span></button></div></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">aflamenco</span><span class="post-author-title"></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/6735-76.jpg" alt="aflamenco" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"></span></span></dt><dd><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/responsive/icons/mini/male.png" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f47/11/47/41/95/39369110.gif" alt="Nombre de messages" /></span></span></dt><dd>802</dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#CF7A13;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f77/11/47/41/95/539a1310.png" alt="Guitares" /></span></span></dt><dd>artisane aparicio AA 90F</dd></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129905" class="post-wrap row1 post--129905"><div id="129905" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129905">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Mar 30 Nov 2010 - 13:19</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">beaucoup de personne copie PACO les 1er (tomatito,nunez,amigo) et d'autre mes il on leur style a eu tous les guitariste joue du paco en espagne les plus connue <br />moi je pense que GRISHA va avoir du mal a faire son style pourquoi , comme j'ai dit il sont sort d'un grand conservatoire et se sont des personne qui joue avec des partition et pas comme le mec qui essayé dans sa chambre avec c'est moyen son oreil et essayé <br />moi mon avis a moi ok je trouve qu'un personne qui se forme pas d'école ou conservatoire a plus de mérite et comme j'ai dit a la basse grisha n'est pas un guitariste de flamenco mais de classique <br />maintenant il joue du paco mais serai t'il capable de faire un concert 100% a lui sans un morceau de paco ou vicente sa je doute il a une grand technique et maitrise mais la guitare si tu apporte pas quelque chose de nouveau copié c bien mais avancé c mieux ..<br />comme je dit quand il aura c compos a lui on vera ou sa passe ou sa casse </div><div class="post-footer likes-active"><div class="fa_like_div"><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><span class="rep-cat"><i class="material-icons">thumb_up</i><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></span><span>J'aime</span></button></div></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">sansdelucia</span><span class="post-author-title"></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/4832-27.jpg" alt="sansdelucia" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"></span></span></dt><dd><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/responsive/icons/mini/male.png" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#141414;">Je suis</span> : </span></dt><dd><ul class="profile_field_list"><li>Guitariste</li></ul></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f47/11/47/41/95/39369110.gif" alt="Nombre de messages" /></span></span></dt><dd>1051</dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#CF7A13;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f77/11/47/41/95/539a1310.png" alt="Guitares" /></span></span></dt><dd>CONDE HERMANOS media luna. VALERIANO BERNAL dunee clavija palo,CONDE HERMANOS MOD PACO DE LUCIA EN RIO 1989 FAUSTINO CONDE,PACO DE LUCIA 2003 RIO (VICENTE CARRILLO) CONDE HERMANOS RIO DE 1989 FELIPV</dd></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129906" class="post-wrap row2 post--129906"><div id="129906" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129906">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Mar 30 Nov 2010 - 13:24</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content"> :sunny:OLéééé!!! il a un don de la nature <br /><br /><br /> j'adore <br /><br /><br /></div><div class="post-footer likes-active"><div class="fa_like_div"><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><span class="rep-cat"><i class="material-icons">thumb_up</i><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></span><span>J'aime</span></button></div></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">titcher</span><span class="post-author-title"></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/2645-98.gif" alt="titcher" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"></span></span></dt><dd><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/responsive/icons/mini/male.png" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#141414;">Je suis</span> : </span></dt><dd><ul class="profile_field_list"><li>Guitariste</li></ul></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f47/11/47/41/95/39369110.gif" alt="Nombre de messages" /></span></span></dt><dd>1791</dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#CF7A13;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f77/11/47/41/95/539a1310.png" alt="Guitares" /></span></span></dt><dd>Admira Flamenca Alhambra P5</dd></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129907" class="post-wrap row1 post--129907"><div id="129907" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129907">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Mar 30 Nov 2010 - 13:34</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">je suis ok avec toi sansdelucia il copie et à la perfection<br />maitriser ne veut pas pour autant dire jouer comme<br />je connais des guitaristes concertistes qui maitrisent l'instrument et qui ne joueront jamais comme paco,sabicas, ou diego del moron</div><div class="post-footer likes-active"><div class="fa_like_div"><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><span class="rep-cat"><i class="material-icons">thumb_up</i><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></span><span>J'aime</span></button></div></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">aflamenco</span><span class="post-author-title"></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/6735-76.jpg" alt="aflamenco" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"></span></span></dt><dd><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/responsive/icons/mini/male.png" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f47/11/47/41/95/39369110.gif" alt="Nombre de messages" /></span></span></dt><dd>802</dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#CF7A13;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f77/11/47/41/95/539a1310.png" alt="Guitares" /></span></span></dt><dd>artisane aparicio AA 90F</dd></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129908" class="post-wrap row2 post--129908"><div id="129908" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129908">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Mar 30 Nov 2010 - 13:35</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">un don je suis pas sur quand des l'ages de 7 ans on te mais dans un école de guitare et tu joue 7 heure par jours tous s'apprend <br />avant on disait que le guitare le chant c"etait de famille et bien meme si c vrai aujourd'hui il y a des ecole ou on t'apprend ..<br />tous le monde connais diégo del morao et tous le monde connais sont pére MORAITO<br />ben malgrés le pére qu'il a il diego del morao a était a l'ecole de guitare de flamenco de madrid comme quoi </div><div class="post-footer likes-active"><div class="fa_like_div"><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><span class="rep-cat"><i class="material-icons">thumb_up</i><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></span><span>J'aime</span></button></div></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">sansdelucia</span><span class="post-author-title"></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/4832-27.jpg" alt="sansdelucia" style="max-width: 150px; 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VALERIANO BERNAL dunee clavija palo,CONDE HERMANOS MOD PACO DE LUCIA EN RIO 1989 FAUSTINO CONDE,PACO DE LUCIA 2003 RIO (VICENTE CARRILLO) CONDE HERMANOS RIO DE 1989 FELIPV</dd></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129909" class="post-wrap row1 post--129909"><div id="129909" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129909">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Mar 30 Nov 2010 - 13:37</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">exacte aflamenco <br />faut dire qu'il y a bocoup de guitariste qui pour paco ou du paco mais on est obligé paco pour moi c l'ecole du flamenco mais aprés chacun prend un autre chemin pour se formé <br /></div><div class="post-footer likes-active"><div class="fa_like_div"><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><span class="rep-cat"><i class="material-icons">thumb_up</i><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></span><span>J'aime</span></button></div></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">sansdelucia</span><span class="post-author-title"></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/4832-27.jpg" alt="sansdelucia" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"></span></span></dt><dd><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/responsive/icons/mini/male.png" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#141414;">Je suis</span> : </span></dt><dd><ul class="profile_field_list"><li>Guitariste</li></ul></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f47/11/47/41/95/39369110.gif" alt="Nombre de messages" /></span></span></dt><dd>1051</dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#CF7A13;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f77/11/47/41/95/539a1310.png" alt="Guitares" /></span></span></dt><dd>CONDE HERMANOS media luna. VALERIANO BERNAL dunee clavija palo,CONDE HERMANOS MOD PACO DE LUCIA EN RIO 1989 FAUSTINO CONDE,PACO DE LUCIA 2003 RIO (VICENTE CARRILLO) CONDE HERMANOS RIO DE 1989 FELIPV</dd></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129924" class="post-wrap row2 post--129924"><div id="129924" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129924">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Mar 30 Nov 2010 - 14:56</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">moi je me suis estasier sur la guitr de reyes une merveille<br />le ruse griska il a de la thenicque ok-------------- mais il ne poura jamais rien faire <br />pour faire du flamenco et composer -ay que mamarlo-- ca veut dire en gros que depuis que tu tete tu doit etre flamenco ecouter flamenco vivre flamenco<br />oui je sais que vous aller dire ci et la mais au font cet moi qui dit vrais<br /> <br />nous parlon bien pour composer et non interpreter<br />et meme quand griska interprete il lui manque ce duende flamenco --ese pellisco-<br />thenicque il en a-- comme es petit chinois qui travaille des heure et des heure<br />cet vrais quil et tres bon le ruse mais mais mais??????nada cet vide ce quil fait lol lol</div><div class="post-footer likes-active"><div class="fa_like_div"><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><span class="rep-cat"><i class="material-icons">thumb_up</i><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></span><span>J'aime</span></button></div></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">sanson</span><span class="post-author-title"></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/5287-10.jpg" alt="sanson" style="max-width: 150px; 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max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"></span></span></dt><dd><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/responsive/icons/mini/male.png" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#141414;">Je suis</span> : </span></dt><dd><ul class="profile_field_list"><li>Guitariste</li></ul></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f47/11/47/41/95/39369110.gif" alt="Nombre de messages" /></span></span></dt><dd>5856</dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#CF7A13;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f77/11/47/41/95/539a1310.png" alt="Guitares" /></span></span></dt><dd>Conde Hermanos 1998 Felipe V N°2 | Ortega électroacoustique | Esteve électro </dd></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129934" class="post-wrap row2 post--129934"><div id="129934" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129934">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Mar 30 Nov 2010 - 17:12</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">je vais aller plus loin dans le raisonnement, la premiere vocation de la guitare flamenca est d accompagner le chant, or de moins en moins de guitaristes savent le faire, les paco , tomatito moraito chicuelo sont les derniers qui ont appris" las raices " et qui tout en faisant evoluer le flamenco harmoniquement savent garder le duende, et ca malheureusement pour goriatchev et les autres ca ne s apprend pas dans les conservatoires, actuellement il y a plethore de guitaristes en espagne qui manie le 13 ° bemol, avec toute les possibilites d enrichissement avec virtuosite, les ecoles et consevatoires de flamenco en sont plein, " ay muchas notas ay mucha musica pero no es flamenco " parce qu ils n ont pas ou plus le vecu qui transcende le langage musical, tout ces gens la sont d extraordinaires enregistreurs mais c comme le bitter san pelegrino ca parait mais ca nest pas !!!!!!!! abrazo a todos </div><div class="post-footer"></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">Invité</span><span class="post-author-title">Invité<br /></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/gallery/flamen12.jpg" alt="Anonymous" style="max-width: 150px; 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max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"></span></span></dt><dd><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/responsive/icons/mini/male.png" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#141414;">Je suis</span> : </span></dt><dd><ul class="profile_field_list"><li>Guitariste</li></ul></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f47/11/47/41/95/39369110.gif" alt="Nombre de messages" /></span></span></dt><dd>1120</dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#CF7A13;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f77/11/47/41/95/539a1310.png" alt="Guitares" /></span></span></dt><dd>2 Valeriano Bernal prodigio,Esteve 5F,Seagle electroacoustic</dd></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129939" class="post-wrap row2 post--129939"><div id="129939" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129939">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Mar 30 Nov 2010 - 17:28</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">Goku, excuse moi mais si tu n'as jamais vu meilleur en flamenco c'est que tu n'as pas bien regardé...</div><div class="post-footer"></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">Invité</span><span class="post-author-title">Invité<br /></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/gallery/flamen12.jpg" alt="Anonymous" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129941" class="post-wrap row1 post--129941"><div id="129941" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129941">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Mar 30 Nov 2010 - 17:32</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">Jai corrigé,jai parlé un peu vite,et jai pas dis jamais vu meilleur,mais rarement</div><div class="post-footer likes-active"><div class="fa_like_div"><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><span class="rep-cat"><i class="material-icons">thumb_up</i><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></span><span>J'aime</span></button></div></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">goku26</span><span class="post-author-title"></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/5291-58.png" alt="goku26" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"></span></span></dt><dd><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/responsive/icons/mini/male.png" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#141414;">Je suis</span> : </span></dt><dd><ul class="profile_field_list"><li>Guitariste</li></ul></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f47/11/47/41/95/39369110.gif" alt="Nombre de messages" /></span></span></dt><dd>1120</dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#CF7A13;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f77/11/47/41/95/539a1310.png" alt="Guitares" /></span></span></dt><dd>2 Valeriano Bernal prodigio,Esteve 5F,Seagle electroacoustic</dd></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129942" class="post-wrap row2 post--129942"><div id="129942" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129942">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Mar 30 Nov 2010 - 18:14</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">je n'en démordrai pas ce guitariste russe,certes il est trés bon y'a pas de doute, mais il copie paco,sabicas etc il n'a pas de duende et comme dit mitch je ne le sens pas capable d'accompagner le chant.</div><div class="post-footer likes-active"><div class="fa_like_div"><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><span class="rep-cat"><i class="material-icons">thumb_up</i><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></span><span>J'aime</span></button></div></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">aflamenco</span><span class="post-author-title"></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/6735-76.jpg" alt="aflamenco" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"></span></span></dt><dd><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/responsive/icons/mini/male.png" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f47/11/47/41/95/39369110.gif" alt="Nombre de messages" /></span></span></dt><dd>802</dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#CF7A13;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f77/11/47/41/95/539a1310.png" alt="Guitares" /></span></span></dt><dd>artisane aparicio AA 90F</dd></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129943" class="post-wrap row1 post--129943"><div id="129943" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129943">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Mar 30 Nov 2010 - 18:27</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">moi je vais juste dire <br />que sanson et mitch on tous dit <br />après FRANKY tu c'est paco de lucia et humble pour lui tous le monde et meilleur que lui <br />si demain paco de lucia viendrai a dire je suis le meilleur guitariste du monde ( et pour moi il les) ben sa prouverai qu'il a la grosse tete tous sa pour dire que paco crois encore au flamenco et je pense que paco vois les choses évolué en Espagne et vois que beaucoup de guitariste changer les style et ils c'est rendu compte que le flamenco évolue bien dans les autre pays et le flamenco a évolué et il est parti vers de nouvelle horizon et moi perso sa me fait un peur peur attendre du flamenco avec du rock du bluess ou du jazz sa me dérrange pas mais jusqu'a quand et c se qui me fait peur pars que le jour ou on entendra le rock ou le jazz joué flamenco sa voudra dire que sa se perd ..<br />comme dit sanson le flamenco c'est tu vie flamenco tu respire flamenco tu te léve tu entand ta mére ton pére chanté de bon matin et sa c le flamenco on apprend dans les academie a jouez et chanté mais pas a vivre le flamenco et la c autre choses<br />comme dit mitch avant d'étre soliste il faut savoir accompagné et le flamenco c pas la rumba ( sans que vous le prenié mal) quand tu doit accompagné des palos (des style ) comme la soléa,fandangos de huelva c pas o conservatoire con te l'apprendra <br />moi j'ai appris la guitare pas en comptan 1.2.3.4.5.ect non mais je peut pas expliqué comment pars que c de famille voila le flamenco c un univers immense qui se vie </div><div class="post-footer likes-active"><div class="fa_like_div"><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><span class="rep-cat"><i class="material-icons">thumb_up</i><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></span><span>J'aime</span></button></div></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">sansdelucia</span><span class="post-author-title"></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/4832-27.jpg" alt="sansdelucia" style="max-width: 150px; 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VALERIANO BERNAL dunee clavija palo,CONDE HERMANOS MOD PACO DE LUCIA EN RIO 1989 FAUSTINO CONDE,PACO DE LUCIA 2003 RIO (VICENTE CARRILLO) CONDE HERMANOS RIO DE 1989 FELIPV</dd></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129944" class="post-wrap row2 post--129944"><div id="129944" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129944">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Mar 30 Nov 2010 - 18:28</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">après faut remettre les pendule a l'heure par contre grisha c un monstre trouvé un mec qui joue comme sa ben sa cour pas les rues </div><div class="post-footer likes-active"><div class="fa_like_div"><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><span class="rep-cat"><i class="material-icons">thumb_up</i><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></span><span>J'aime</span></button></div></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">sansdelucia</span><span class="post-author-title"></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/4832-27.jpg" alt="sansdelucia" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"></span></span></dt><dd><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/responsive/icons/mini/male.png" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#141414;">Je suis</span> : </span></dt><dd><ul class="profile_field_list"><li>Guitariste</li></ul></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f47/11/47/41/95/39369110.gif" alt="Nombre de messages" /></span></span></dt><dd>1051</dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#CF7A13;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f77/11/47/41/95/539a1310.png" alt="Guitares" /></span></span></dt><dd>CONDE HERMANOS media luna. VALERIANO BERNAL dunee clavija palo,CONDE HERMANOS MOD PACO DE LUCIA EN RIO 1989 FAUSTINO CONDE,PACO DE LUCIA 2003 RIO (VICENTE CARRILLO) CONDE HERMANOS RIO DE 1989 FELIPV</dd></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129945" class="post-wrap row1 post--129945"><div id="129945" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129945">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Mar 30 Nov 2010 - 18:30</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">j'ai mis "paco numero 2 " parceque techniquement c'est un monstre, quand il joue du paco, on dirait presque paco... mais bon , j'ai jamais dit qu'il avait le genie, et le talent de compositeur de paco....</div><div class="post-footer"></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">Invité</span><span class="post-author-title">Invité<br /></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/gallery/flamen12.jpg" alt="Anonymous" style="max-width: 150px; 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max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129952" class="post-wrap row1 post--129952"><div id="129952" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129952">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Mar 30 Nov 2010 - 18:43</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">Le flamenco a évolué et je dirais qu'il n'a pas d'autre choix. Ce qui n'évolue pas ...meurt. Comment évoluer sans perdre son âme là est la difficulté. Depuis Paco tous les grands guitaristes de flamenco ont enrichi leurs harmonies d'apports différents (jazz, musique brésilienne etc...) C'est une évolution que l'on se doit d'accepter au risque de rester figer sur un flamenco d'antan qui n'existera plus.<br />Deuxièment l'accompagnement au chant comme le dit Mitch est fondamental et n'exige pas toujours une virtuosité du tonnerre mais d'être en phase avec le chanteur ce qui est bien plus difficile. <br />Enfin je dirai que Goriachev est un très bon technicien et il pourrait s'il le souhaite apprendre l'accompagnement au chant.Etre un très bon technicien ne suffit pas à le comparer aux grands guitaristes de la discipline, car au final ce qui est le plus difficile n'est pas de faire des notes (même très bien), mais faire de la musique.</div><div class="post-footer"></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">Invité</span><span class="post-author-title">Invité<br /></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/gallery/flamen12.jpg" alt="Anonymous" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129954" class="post-wrap row2 post--129954"><div id="129954" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129954">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Mar 30 Nov 2010 - 18:49</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">y joue super bien franchement rien a dit mais je suis pas fan des anglais qui joue du flamenco</div><div class="post-footer likes-active"><div class="fa_like_div"><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><span class="rep-cat"><i class="material-icons">thumb_up</i><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></span><span>J'aime</span></button></div></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">Lefez</span><span class="post-author-title"></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/1685-78.png" alt="Lefez" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"></span></span></dt><dd><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/responsive/icons/mini/male.png" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#141414;">Je suis</span> : </span></dt><dd><ul class="profile_field_list"><li>Guitariste</li></ul></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f47/11/47/41/95/39369110.gif" alt="Nombre de messages" /></span></span></dt><dd>587</dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#CF7A13;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f77/11/47/41/95/539a1310.png" alt="Guitares" /></span></span></dt><dd>gomez</dd></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129955" class="post-wrap row1 post--129955"><div id="129955" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129955">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Mar 30 Nov 2010 - 18:49</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">totoskaya<br />je c que tu na pas foutu la m...e et puis moi j'aime beaucoup comme joue grisha après voila que dire ben VIVA LA MUSICA <img src="/users/3112/75/10/01/smiles/812293611.png" alt="µmusic" longdesc="57" /> </div><div class="post-footer likes-active"><div class="fa_like_div"><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><span class="rep-cat"><i class="material-icons">thumb_up</i><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></span><span>J'aime</span></button></div></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">sansdelucia</span><span class="post-author-title"></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/4832-27.jpg" alt="sansdelucia" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"></span></span></dt><dd><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/responsive/icons/mini/male.png" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#141414;">Je suis</span> : </span></dt><dd><ul class="profile_field_list"><li>Guitariste</li></ul></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f47/11/47/41/95/39369110.gif" alt="Nombre de messages" /></span></span></dt><dd>1051</dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#CF7A13;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f77/11/47/41/95/539a1310.png" alt="Guitares" /></span></span></dt><dd>CONDE HERMANOS media luna. VALERIANO BERNAL dunee clavija palo,CONDE HERMANOS MOD PACO DE LUCIA EN RIO 1989 FAUSTINO CONDE,PACO DE LUCIA 2003 RIO (VICENTE CARRILLO) CONDE HERMANOS RIO DE 1989 FELIPV</dd></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129957" class="post-wrap row2 post--129957"><div id="129957" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129957">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Mar 30 Nov 2010 - 18:50</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">c pas un anglais mais un russe </div><div class="post-footer likes-active"><div class="fa_like_div"><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><span class="rep-cat"><i class="material-icons">thumb_up</i><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></span><span>J'aime</span></button></div></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">sansdelucia</span><span class="post-author-title"></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/4832-27.jpg" alt="sansdelucia" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"></span></span></dt><dd><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/responsive/icons/mini/male.png" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#141414;">Je suis</span> : </span></dt><dd><ul class="profile_field_list"><li>Guitariste</li></ul></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f47/11/47/41/95/39369110.gif" alt="Nombre de messages" /></span></span></dt><dd>1051</dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#CF7A13;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f77/11/47/41/95/539a1310.png" alt="Guitares" /></span></span></dt><dd>CONDE HERMANOS media luna. VALERIANO BERNAL dunee clavija palo,CONDE HERMANOS MOD PACO DE LUCIA EN RIO 1989 FAUSTINO CONDE,PACO DE LUCIA 2003 RIO (VICENTE CARRILLO) CONDE HERMANOS RIO DE 1989 FELIPV</dd></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129958" class="post-wrap row1 post--129958"><div id="129958" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129958">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Mar 30 Nov 2010 - 18:52</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">juste un truc le jour que je jourrai comme lui je poste tous les jours une video sur le forum<br />et sa s'appelera plue flamenco rumba mais flamencodelucia lol <br />escuse franky ne le prend pas mal mdr </div><div class="post-footer likes-active"><div class="fa_like_div"><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><span class="rep-cat"><i class="material-icons">thumb_up</i><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></span><span>J'aime</span></button></div></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">sansdelucia</span><span class="post-author-title"></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/4832-27.jpg" alt="sansdelucia" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"></span></span></dt><dd><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/responsive/icons/mini/male.png" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#141414;">Je suis</span> : </span></dt><dd><ul class="profile_field_list"><li>Guitariste</li></ul></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f47/11/47/41/95/39369110.gif" alt="Nombre de messages" /></span></span></dt><dd>1051</dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#CF7A13;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f77/11/47/41/95/539a1310.png" alt="Guitares" /></span></span></dt><dd>CONDE HERMANOS media luna. VALERIANO BERNAL dunee clavija palo,CONDE HERMANOS MOD PACO DE LUCIA EN RIO 1989 FAUSTINO CONDE,PACO DE LUCIA 2003 RIO (VICENTE CARRILLO) CONDE HERMANOS RIO DE 1989 FELIPV</dd></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129959" class="post-wrap row2 post--129959"><div id="129959" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129959">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Mar 30 Nov 2010 - 18:53</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">lol oue, bon on va parler de sa reyes qui sonne pas trop mal héhé <img src="/users/3112/75/10/01/smiles/315201.gif" alt=":b:" longdesc="65" /> </div><div class="post-footer"></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">Invité</span><span class="post-author-title">Invité<br /></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/gallery/flamen12.jpg" alt="Anonymous" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129960" class="post-wrap row1 post--129960"><div id="129960" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129960">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Mar 30 Nov 2010 - 18:54</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">oh oui y'a pas photo c'est un monstre!<br />mais voilà!</div><div class="post-footer likes-active"><div class="fa_like_div"><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><span class="rep-cat"><i class="material-icons">thumb_up</i><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></span><span>J'aime</span></button></div></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">aflamenco</span><span class="post-author-title"></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/6735-76.jpg" alt="aflamenco" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"></span></span></dt><dd><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/responsive/icons/mini/male.png" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f47/11/47/41/95/39369110.gif" alt="Nombre de messages" /></span></span></dt><dd>802</dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#CF7A13;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f77/11/47/41/95/539a1310.png" alt="Guitares" /></span></span></dt><dd>artisane aparicio AA 90F</dd></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129964" class="post-wrap row2 post--129964"><div id="129964" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129964">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Mar 30 Nov 2010 - 19:24</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">oui bon la reyes vous pouvez me l'offrir si si allez soyez simpa <br />peuf les boules </div><div class="post-footer likes-active"><div class="fa_like_div"><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><span class="rep-cat"><i class="material-icons">thumb_up</i><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></span><span>J'aime</span></button></div></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">sansdelucia</span><span class="post-author-title"></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/4832-27.jpg" alt="sansdelucia" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"></span></span></dt><dd><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/responsive/icons/mini/male.png" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#141414;">Je suis</span> : </span></dt><dd><ul class="profile_field_list"><li>Guitariste</li></ul></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f47/11/47/41/95/39369110.gif" alt="Nombre de messages" /></span></span></dt><dd>1051</dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#CF7A13;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f77/11/47/41/95/539a1310.png" alt="Guitares" /></span></span></dt><dd>CONDE HERMANOS media luna. VALERIANO BERNAL dunee clavija palo,CONDE HERMANOS MOD PACO DE LUCIA EN RIO 1989 FAUSTINO CONDE,PACO DE LUCIA 2003 RIO (VICENTE CARRILLO) CONDE HERMANOS RIO DE 1989 FELIPV</dd></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129967" class="post-wrap row1 post--129967"><div id="129967" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129967">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Mar 30 Nov 2010 - 19:33</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content"><blockquote><cite>sansdelucia a écrit:</cite> <div class="clear"></div> <div class="quote_content">moi je vais juste dire <br />que sanson et mitch on tous dit <br />après FRANKY tu c'est paco de lucia et humble pour lui tous le monde et meilleur que lui <br />si demain paco de lucia viendrai a dire je suis le meilleur guitariste du monde ( et pour moi il les) ben sa prouverai qu'il a la grosse tete tous sa pour dire que paco crois encore au flamenco et je pense que paco vois les choses évolué en Espagne et vois que beaucoup de guitariste changer les style et ils c'est rendu compte que le flamenco évolue bien dans les autre pays et le flamenco a évolué et il est parti vers de nouvelle horizon et moi perso sa me fait un peur peur attendre du flamenco avec du rock du bluess ou du jazz sa me dérrange pas mais jusqu'a quand et c se qui me fait peur pars que le jour ou on entendra le rock ou le jazz joué flamenco sa voudra dire que sa se perd ..<br />comme dit sanson le flamenco c'est tu vie flamenco tu respire flamenco tu te léve tu entand ta mére ton pére chanté de bon matin et sa c le flamenco on apprend dans les academie a jouez et chanté mais pas a vivre le flamenco et la c autre choses<br />comme dit mitch avant d'étre soliste il faut savoir accompagné et le flamenco c pas la rumba ( sans que vous le prenié mal) quand tu doit accompagné des palos (des style ) comme la soléa,fandangos de huelva c pas o conservatoire con te l'apprendra <br />moi j'ai appris la guitare pas en comptan 1.2.3.4.5.ect non mais je peut pas expliqué comment pars que c de famille voila le flamenco c un univers immense qui se vie </div></blockquote> <br /><br />Oui, je suis d'accord, mais le Flamenco a déjà évolué, et il continuera sans doute son évolution, pour s'en rendre compte il n'y a cas écouter tous ce qui est enregistré avant les innovations de "<strong>Paco de Lucia</strong>" ça sonné différemment à l'époque, et puis ça joué sans Cajun, sans Bassiste, sans Flûte, etc etc...<br /><br />Et vous croyez vraiment que dans toutes l'histoire de l'humanité, avec les années qui vont passer, les générations a venir, et la diffusion culturelle qui s'élargie sans cesse, que seul les Andalou ou les Gitan pourront avoir el duende ? <br />Qu'un Arabe, un Japonais ou un Russe ne pourra pas vivre et ressentir Flamenco ?<br /><br /><strong>dans ce cas la vision des choses est plutôt bizarre:</strong><br />seul les Andalou peuvent jouer vraiment Flamenco (et il est limité au frontière, il n'a sans doute pas ces papier en règle pour traverser...)<br />seul les Japonais font du judo de haut niveau (et on oublis David Douillet Teddy Riner et tan d'autre champion du monde) <br />seul les Espagnol savent vraiment faire la Paella. ( et j'oublis les Paella d'espagnol complètement raté que j'ai mangé)<br />seul les noir Américain sont vraiment capable chanter le Blues, (et on oublis que Eric Clapton, Janis jopling, et tan d'autre qui son Blanc...)<br />seul les Thaïlandais peuvent pratiquer le Muay Thai car c'est vraiment un sport culturel National (et on oublis Guillaume Kerner, Cyrille Diabaté, et tan d'autres Français qui ont était champion du monde)<br /><br />Je crois qu'il faut arrêtez de mettre des frontières stéréotypé sur les gens, on dirait presque des propos de raciste, certain vivent de génération Gitane et ne savent pas jouer un seul accord de guitare, on a tous deux mains, un cerveau, et des tripes dans le ventre. <br /><br />Paco de Lucia l'a dit: <strong>"Tout est question de l’âge auquel on le fera commencer et de la foi qu’il y mettra."</strong><br />et je crois qu'il pensait sincèrement ses propos, car a long terme cette culture peut trés bien perdurer sur plusieurs génération de non Andalou, vivant dans un autre Pays, et les faire vivre Flamenco, parler Flamenco, manger Flamenco, dormir Flamenco, souffrir Flamenco...<br /><br /><div class="post-signature" id="sig129967"><br /><br /><span style="font-size: 13px; 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max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"></span></span></dt><dd><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/responsive/icons/mini/male.png" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#141414;">Je suis</span> : </span></dt><dd><ul class="profile_field_list"><li>Guitariste</li></ul></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f47/11/47/41/95/39369110.gif" alt="Nombre de messages" /></span></span></dt><dd>5856</dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#CF7A13;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f77/11/47/41/95/539a1310.png" alt="Guitares" /></span></span></dt><dd>Conde Hermanos 1998 Felipe V N°2 | Ortega électroacoustique | Esteve électro </dd></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129971" class="post-wrap row2 post--129971"><div id="129971" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129971">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Mar 30 Nov 2010 - 19:56</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content"><blockquote><cite>Franky a écrit:</cite> <div class="clear"></div> <div class="quote_content">Je crois qu'il faut arrêtez de mettre des frontières stéréotypé sur les gens, on dirait presque des propos de raciste</div></blockquote> <br />Bien d'accord avec Franky qui avait réussi à créer un site de partage entre tous, gitans ou non, débutants ou confirmés, amateurs de rumba ou de flamenco. Ca me peine beaucoup de voir comment ça tourne...<br />Depuis quelques temps, plus une vidéo ne trouve grâce aux yeux de certains, tout est comparé et rapporté aux meilleurs, c'est à vous dégoûter de la guitare et de ce milieu si sectaire...<br /></div><div class="post-footer likes-active"><div class="fa_like_div"><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><span class="rep-cat"><i class="material-icons">thumb_up</i><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></span><span>J'aime</span></button></div></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">coco74</span><span class="post-author-title"></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/1870-40.jpg" alt="coco74" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"></span></span></dt><dd><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/responsive/icons/mini/female.png" alt="Féminin" title="Féminin" /></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f47/11/47/41/95/39369110.gif" alt="Nombre de messages" /></span></span></dt><dd>915</dd></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129973" class="post-wrap row1 post--129973"><div id="129973" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129973">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Mar 30 Nov 2010 - 20:39</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">tous le monde donne son avis mais je vous pas ou est le soucis puisque on ai touses a discuté de chose et d'autre après y en na qui préfére certaine chose et d'autre non <br />qui dégoute de quoi de la guitare mais pourquoi alors y en n'a qui préne vraiement les choses mal dans se cas la faut arrété de posté des vidéo et puis voila y aura personne qui dégoutera personne<br />c pas pasque on dit qu'il n'est pas paco ou autre qu'il ne joue pas bien si a chaque vidéo il faut se mettre a pleuré on sans sort plus <br />et de plus de ma part je ne critique pas grisha pars que si je me souvient je suis un des 1er a avoir mis c vidéo sur se forum (je dit bien un des 1er)<br />moi je suis d'accord avec franky mais l'évolution sa veut pas dire que forcément sa va étre bon je prend l'exemple de mon cousin raimundo amador qui était un puriste il a jouez avec paco , il a accompagné a camaron et pour moi c'était un extra guitariste et maintenant j'arrive plus a écouté sa music c le BBKING du flamenco voila avant j'aimé bien aujourd'hui non<br />voila que sa évolue oui mais sa veux pas dire que c bien ou con doit aimé <br />je préfére 1 millions de foit le paco de lucia des année 70/80/90 que le paco de maintenant <br />pour moi c sa pérdre c racine <br />et puis on peut jouez flamenco c pas pour sa qu'on ai flamenco <br />et je ne vois pas se qui a de raciste dans cette discusion ou se qui en resemble <br /></div><div class="post-footer likes-active"><div class="fa_like_div"><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><span class="rep-cat"><i class="material-icons">thumb_up</i><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></span><span>J'aime</span></button></div></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">sansdelucia</span><span class="post-author-title"></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/4832-27.jpg" alt="sansdelucia" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"></span></span></dt><dd><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/responsive/icons/mini/male.png" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#141414;">Je suis</span> : </span></dt><dd><ul class="profile_field_list"><li>Guitariste</li></ul></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f47/11/47/41/95/39369110.gif" alt="Nombre de messages" /></span></span></dt><dd>1051</dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#CF7A13;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f77/11/47/41/95/539a1310.png" alt="Guitares" /></span></span></dt><dd>CONDE HERMANOS media luna. VALERIANO BERNAL dunee clavija palo,CONDE HERMANOS MOD PACO DE LUCIA EN RIO 1989 FAUSTINO CONDE,PACO DE LUCIA 2003 RIO (VICENTE CARRILLO) CONDE HERMANOS RIO DE 1989 FELIPV</dd></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129976" class="post-wrap row2 post--129976"><div id="129976" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129976">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Mar 30 Nov 2010 - 20:45</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">certes francky le flamenco a évolué parce que quelques artistes ont passé les frontières c'est une minorité apres lorsque l'on fréquente les pegna en andalousie je peux me tromper mais j'en ai fait quelques unes ,je n'y vois pas de flutes à bec ni cajon seule percussion les palmas<br />le flamenco c'est le chant c'est le chanteur qui choisi sont traste (accompagnement) il reste encore des chants comme la saeta qui se font sans guitare<br />sans étayer certaines thèses ici présentes je ne sais pas si l'on peut comparer le sport, la cuisine tous les pays peuvent s'essayer a celà,avec le folklore je sais pas ce que peux donner un japonnais qui chante en breton ou en catalan<br />quand a coco74 pas la peine de s'énerver ce sont des débats tranquilles</div><div class="post-footer likes-active"><div class="fa_like_div"><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><span class="rep-cat"><i class="material-icons">thumb_up</i><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></span><span>J'aime</span></button></div></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">aflamenco</span><span class="post-author-title"></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/6735-76.jpg" alt="aflamenco" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"></span></span></dt><dd><img src="https://2img.net/i/fa/responsive/icons/mini/male.png" alt="Masculin" title="Masculin" /></dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#DB6600;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f47/11/47/41/95/39369110.gif" alt="Nombre de messages" /></span></span></dt><dd>802</dd><dt><span class="label"><span style="color:#CF7A13;"><img src="https://i.servimg.com/u/f77/11/47/41/95/539a1310.png" alt="Guitares" /></span></span></dt><dd>artisane aparicio AA 90F</dd></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129980" class="post-wrap row1 post--129980"><div id="129980" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129980">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Mar 30 Nov 2010 - 20:54</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">Donner un avis sur un guitariste n'est pas pour autant synonyme de sectarisme. Il est bien évident qu'un Inuit peut jouer aussi bien qu'un andalou si il s'en donne la peine.Je me permets de vous délivrer ici une interview de mon prof où il abordait entre autres cet aspect : <br /><br /><a href="http://www.flamencoweb.fr/spip/spip.php?article90" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.flamencoweb.fr/spip/spip.php?article90</a></div><div class="post-footer"></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">Invité</span><span class="post-author-title">Invité<br /></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/gallery/flamen12.jpg" alt="Anonymous" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129984" class="post-wrap row2 post--129984"><div id="129984" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129984">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Mar 30 Nov 2010 - 21:20</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">"seul les Thaïlandais peuvent pratiquer le Muay Thai car c'est vraiment un sport culturel National (et on oublis Guillaume Kerner, Cyrille Diabaté, et tan d'autres Français qui ont était champion du monde)"<br /><br />Je vois que tu as une bonne connaissance de la boxe pieds poings franky.</div><div class="post-footer"></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">Invité</span><span class="post-author-title">Invité<br /></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/gallery/flamen12.jpg" alt="Anonymous" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-129987" class="post-wrap row1 post--129987"><div id="129987" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#129987">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date">Mar 30 Nov 2010 - 21:53</span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content">J'ai dit "<strong>on diré presque des propos raciste</strong>" c'était pour bien souligner mon message, car à vous entendre on pourrait croire que tous les citoyens qui vivent hors du monde de l'Andalousie ne peuvent pas aussi bien s'exprimer artistiquement, comme si il y avait entre guillemet "une race supérieure" capable de composer et interpréter certain style de musique que d'autre humain ne pourront jamais faire.<br /><br />ce sont des stéréotype, du cataloguage, (je sais pas si ça se dit,) enfin, je veux dire mettre des gens dans un catalogue...<br /><br />je crois que ça prendra du temps mais vue comme cette culture se propage ca évoluera forcement dans le monde, avec les années et les générations à venir, dans 50 ans ou peut être plus, le Flamenco sera forcement vécu et exprimé con el duende par des musiciens qui ne seront pas forcément née en Andalousie et sans origine Gitane ou espagnole.<br /><br />déjà Paco de Lucia n'est pas Gitan, et si je ne me trompe pas il a même des origine Portugaise de part à sa mère, et une maison au Mexique, c'est sans doute pour cela qu'il n'est pas autan fermé que vous (<a href="http://www.lejdd.fr/Culture/Musique/Actualite/Paco-de-Lucia-Il-y-a-longtemps-que-le-flamenco-est-universel-233488/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">lu dans son commentaire avec la presse</a>) sur l'idée que avec le temps et la foi, même un Japonais, pourrait être capable de jouer et composer du Flamenco aussi bien que lui même.<br /><br />Bien sûr lorsqu'il dit cela il fait preuve de modestie, mais aussi d'ouverture culturelle à travers le monde, car il aurait pu répondre autre chose tout en restant humble et respectueux de sa culture et des étranger.<br /></div><div class="post-footer likes-active"><div class="fa_like_div"><button class="rep-button " data-href="" data-href-rm=""><span class="rep-cat"><i class="material-icons">thumb_up</i><span class="rep-nb" style="display:none;"></span></span><span>J'aime</span></button></div></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name"><span style="color:#FF5B0F"><strong>Franky</strong></span></span><span class="post-author-title"><font color="#e30000">Administrateur</font><br /></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/1-72.jpg" alt="Franky" style="max-width: 150px; 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Pour le flamenco un séjour prolongé en andalousie me parait indispensable pour boire à la source., car plus qu'une musique le flamenco est une culture et une attitude. Je pense qu'un non espagnol, une fois ce travail effectué peut très bien devenir un excellent guitariste en dehors de la frontière espagnole.</div><div class="post-footer"></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">Invité</span><span class="post-author-title">Invité<br /></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"><img loading="lazy" src="https://2img.net/u/3112/75/10/01/avatars/gallery/flamen12.jpg" alt="Anonymous" style="max-width: 150px; max-height: 150px" /></div></div><div class="dd_award left box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div id="post-0" class="post-wrap row2 post--0"><div id="0" class="post-header"><h2><i class="material-icons">description</i><img src="https://2img.net/i/empty.gif" alt="Paco numero 2 Empty" loading="lazy" /><span class="post-heading-wrap"><a href="/t12587-paco-numero-2#0">Re: Paco numero 2</a><span class="post-date"></span></span></h2><div class="mobile-hide post-buttons"><ul><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div><div class="mobile-show dropdown post-buttons-mobile"><i class="material-icons">more_horiz</i><ul class="dropdown-box"><li class="btn-thank"></li><li class="btn-quote-multi"></li><li class="btn-quote"></li><li class="btn-edit"></li><li class="btn-delete"></li><li class="btn-ip"></li><li class="btn-report"></li></ul></div></div><div class="post-body"><div class="post" ><div class="post-content"><div style="max-width:970px;"> <div id="taboola-below-article-thumbnails"></div> <script type="text/javascript"> window._taboola = window._taboola || []; _taboola.push({ mode: 'thumbnails-Below', container: 'taboola-below-article-thumbnails', placement: 'Below Article Thumbnails', target_type: 'mix' }); </script></div></div><div class="post-footer"></div></div><aside class="post-aside"><div class="post-author-status"></div><div class="post-author"><span class="post-author-name">Contenu sponsorisé</span><span class="post-author-title"></span></div><div class="post-author-avatar"><div class="avatar-big"></div></div><div class="dd_award right box-body"></div><div class="award_more box-body"></div><br><dl class="post-author-details"></dl><div class="post-author-rpg"></div><div class="post-author-contact dropdown"><i class="material-icons">keyboard_arrow_down</i><div class="dropdown-box"></div></div></aside></div></div><div class="block block-ptrafic" id="ptrafic_close" style="display: none;"><div class="block-header"><a href="javascript:ShowHideLayer('ptrafic_open','ptrafic_close');"><i class="material-icons">add_circle</i></a><span>Sujets similaires</span></div></div><div class="block block-ptrafic" id="ptrafic_open" style="display:'';"><div class="block-header"><a href="javascript:ShowHideLayer('ptrafic_open','ptrafic_close');"><i class="material-icons">remove_circle</i></a><span>Sujets similaires</span></div><div class="block-content ptrafic"><a href="/t24176-compas-sevillana-introductionsalida-et-copla" title="compas sevillana introduction,salida et copla" ><i class="material-icons">chat_bubble</i>compas sevillana introduction,salida et copla</a><br /><a href="/t2318-un-essaim-d-abeilles" title="Un essaim d'abeilles" ><i class="material-icons">chat_bubble</i>Un essaim d'abeilles</a><br /><a href="/t10859-camaron-de-la-islaturroneropaco-ceperopaco-de-lucia" title="camaron de la isla,turronero,paco cepero,paco de lucia." ><i class="material-icons">chat_bubble</i>camaron de la isla,turronero,paco cepero,paco de lucia.</a><br /><a href="/t25320-paco-et-enrico" title="paco et enrico" ><i class="material-icons">chat_bubble</i>paco et enrico</a><br /><a href="/t18562-paco-de-lucia" title="paco de lucia" ><i class="material-icons">chat_bubble</i>paco de lucia</a><br /></div></div><div class="topic-actions bottom"><div class="topic-actions-buttons"></div></div><div class="pagination"><script type="text/javascript"> //<![CDATA[ var agt = navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase(); var originalFirstChild; var display = false; function msg(message) { if( typeof(console) == "undefined" ) { alert(message); } else { console.info( message ); } } function createPagination(which, string, x, y) { if ( display == true ) { destroyPagination(); display = false; } else { display = true; if (typeof(originalFirstChild) == "undefined") { originalFirstChild = document.body.firstChild; } /* Pour maximiser les compatibilites IE6/7/8 en quirk/doctyped */ var de = !document.documentElement.clientWidth?document.body:document.documentElement; x = document.all ? 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